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patrox247 (June 21, 2008 at 9:42 am)
Awesome video. I run across people who have unreasonable expectations or double standards when it comes to the burden of proof. We live in a post modern society in which many people simple can not or will not engage in profitable discussion in which legitimate ideas are exchanged. They opt for the post modern deconstructism that is running so rampant. A generation that is always learning but never gaining truth.
grammastola (June 21, 2008 at 12:22 am)
Indeed, Clutchology. I appreciate the fact that even though you're an atheist, you don't care for the way the more militant atheists tend to paint a caricature of Christians.For the same reason, I try to emphasize that I draw distinctions between moderate atheists and the extreme atheists who persist in the type of argumentation that you deplore.
grammastola (June 21, 2008 at 12:14 am)
"Has anyone written a serious analysis of his book?"There are several reviews on the web. I recommend Greg Koukl's review, and I've addressed this book in several of my videos.I liked parts of the McGraths's book, but I don't feel that it was the best treatment of Dawkins. Remember though, that's partly because the McGraths don't appear to be conservative Christians. This just goes to show that scholars from diverse backgrounds all have problems with Dawkins' analysis of theism.
tenneral (June 20, 2008 at 7:52 pm)
Good video as usual. I am not a philosopher but I was mightily impressed by the God Delusion and I would very much like to find out where Dawkins's philosophy is at fault and his use of History breaks down. Has anyone written a serious analysis of his book? McGrath seems too sensational to me for this purpose.
Clutchology (June 20, 2008 at 7:49 pm)
You mean the view that's often propagated that theists are delusional, hell-fire ranting, intolerant, pro-life, creationist, conservative, Bible bashing Christians who have never questioned their beliefs, not have the intelligence to do so?Yeah, that annoys me too.
grammastola (June 20, 2008 at 4:47 pm)
I agree. Now, I'm not trying to bash atheists here, since I want to avoid overly broad generalizations. I do also appreciate discussions with atheists who avoid that kind of stereotyping.Still, such double standards are common. For example, people who argue that religion is the greatest cause of killing of all time clearly lump all religions together... yet when one points out that the greatest killers of all time were atheists, they vehemently object to being lumped with such people!
BassP86 (June 20, 2008 at 4:37 pm)
Great video, Dean. I would to add something. In all the years I've debated with people of different beliefs, I've never seen more overgeneralizations given by any other people than atheists. Most of them whom I've debated with had that type of authoritative attitude, which gave them a right to believe as many stereotypes about theists as they wanted. Ironically, if a theist makes a statement that even comes close to a generalization about atheists, they become hostile/angry. Very hypocritical. |
