SiY11 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Just as I thought we do not get to see Mitt respond.

pillsbury09 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Mitt rocks.Get a life you loser.

thomasstunts (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Sandiegoecho: And for the record, in the event you are under this false impression also, I am not in favor of Romney either (even though he's already out of the race), but it has nothing to do with his religion. You can be anti-Romney all you want, but I believe attacking his religious beliefs is an invalid argument, and very immature to say the least.

thomasstunts (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

So I argue that it would be illogical of you to assume that religion cannot hold logical values. I also argue that it would be illogical of you to assume that the LDS church holds no logic. Once again, if you have never been a part of it then you rightfully cannot say, and since you have chosen "to say" without experience, then I say that your argument is invalid, since the premise is founded on inadequacy.

thomasstunts (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Sandiegoecho: I will spare you and everyone else reading these comments from the very long message I sent in response, but I will post my conclusion:

sandiegoecho (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

What would be illogical would be for me to argue, with logic, a religion that contains none nor should be expected to. It's a religion, not mathematics.Be proud of your cult instead of making excuses for it. If you were not unique the leadership would have no power, the followers would not feel special, and quite frankly, you might get confusedly labeled as Christian. Then where would you be?

sandiegoecho (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The term "cult" is useful only to those not belonging to the group so defined. If I were Mormon I would certainly not consider my religion a cult. As an observer of the Mormon faith, a religion born of a man in modern times and ostracized to the barren West for it's unique and socially unacceptable practices, cult fits quite nicely for me. Today LDS teaches a unique set of acceptable norms, chastises those who fall away, and rewards those who follow. What is left to argue?

thomasstunts (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

To "sandiegoecho": I hope you realize that you are making a logical error, in that you label the LDS church as a cult. Yet I must ask, have you ever been a Mormon? Unless you have, I don't think you have the credentials to speak on their behalf. It's much like saying "I hate plumbing" if you've never plumbed anything before. Unless you've fully experienced it for yourself (objectively), you can never know. "The only thing to fear is a closed mind." I challenge you to open yours.

FormerMALiberall (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

What a tool!

MyPasswordIsUserName (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Romney scares me worse then Cheney and Bush