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wildcat1559 (October 4, 2008 at 2:24 am)
hes actually wrong the previous gen cts did have leds in the back but only for the indicators.
stopwitstraightshots (August 8, 2008 at 5:12 am)
i cant wait my parents r buyin this for me when i turn 16 in 4 mths
wrestlingchanhee (July 2, 2008 at 2:04 am)
mmm u know that my family is like super rich. we have like 5 maybachs, not to mention the 6 storie house in beverly hills
BamFor07 (May 26, 2008 at 3:50 pm)
They are simple in your world, which is the same one where a BMW is better than a Porsche. Thanks for the convo but your last comment proves that there is nothing left to say except walk away and laugh. Best of luck with your collection, im sure there are some fine cars in it and we will just agree to disagree.
scabberdoug (May 26, 2008 at 12:51 am)
actually the v12 models are quite simplistic in both design and function. Even the MI units are easy if you know where to get the parts.
BamFor07 (May 25, 2008 at 10:07 pm)
and upon closer inspection the parts of a higher quality (generally). Ill give one thing to BMW though, the designs are more accomodating to the person working on the vehicle, that still doesnt change the fact that the Porsche is better for the road etc. One thing ive found with allot of the older guys who work for me is that they often miss the tiny details and well the story is in the details isnt it?
BamFor07 (May 25, 2008 at 10:04 pm)
Trust me I know complicated, like I said I focus on BL Jaguars. Complicated doesnt begin to describe the 12 cylinder engine, with that being said the design is far superior to Porsche or BMW. BL Jags were just made poorly, if BL had taken the brilliant designs and built them with the kinds of materials and with the care of a BMW or a Porsche, it would in my opinion be the better of both of them. With that said, Porsches engine designs work better, they are more efficent.
scabberdoug (May 25, 2008 at 1:51 am)
Thats funny, I too have been restoring cars since I was 16. That means I've been restoring cars ten years longer than you have been alive. I believe you are correct in your assessment that simpler is better, but you got it backwards. Ex. Check out some of the coolant diagrams for water cooled Porsches, some of them have in excess of 16 hoses and they are famous for using tapered hoses. All that performance comes at a price.
BamFor07 (May 24, 2008 at 10:22 pm)
Thats the beauty of having both cars. We can disagree. I have a passion for restoring cars and have done so since I was 16. I would buy older cars do some work on them and flip them. Recently I have begun work on several Jaguars (2 XJS's to be exact). Ive also done some extensive work on Porsches as my father is also a collector. I have always found Porsches to be better built as their designs are often simpler and more straight forward. In my opinion Porsche is a better car.
scabberdoug (May 24, 2008 at 12:28 am)
As a collector I currently own 5 of one and 2 of the other. Having done several total restorations I disagree with you. |
